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También se rebela, como describe Eugenio Tironi, contra el trato paternalista. En este caso siente restringida y hasta humillada su recién estrenada conciencia de sí, que por lo general se alimenta de fantasías ajenas al mundo estrecho de la casa y sus tutores, que pueden persistir en la imagen infantil de esa persona que no dejan ser persona, situándolo y tratándolo según esa imagen que ellos crearon y no según la que el joven pretende para sí.

Pero el paternalismo es más que cariño. Es un efecto de dominación. Tratar así es anular la ignorancia –fuente de respeto- que siempre persiste respecto de otro. Convertir a otra persona en la imagen que nos hacemos de ella es una falta de respeto que dará origen a muchas más. Y se puede llegar lejos, incluso a la peor de las violencias, como cuando esa imagen es una etiqueta degradante, según ocurre aún hoy en los dominios rurales, o como todos sabemos que llegó hasta el paroxismo en la Alemania nazi contra el “invasor” judío.

Si se está en condiciones de reaccionar a ella, la respuesta a la violencia, aunque se ejerza inconsciente o solapadamente, suele ser la violencia. Este fenómeno del asesinato del padre era considerado por Freud como el germen del “malestar en la cultura”, que él refería a la culpa, cuyo origen detectaba en el sentimiento de los hijos luego del asesinato. Pero el ciclo parece inevitable. La autoridad es la que sabe y no se equivoca. Esto, como la historia lo demuestra a raudales, a fin de cuentas no es otra cosa que la defensa de un poder, aunque sea el del padre frente al hijo, pero el padre como poseedor de la verdad que el hijo deberá vencer par hacer valer la suya. La solución, creo, es un trato alejado de los roles de autoridad. Si uno ve en el hijo algo que tiene que educar y proteger, se generará un vínculo de dependencia. Y la dependencia es la cuna de las relaciones de poder entre los hombres. Esto lo enseñó el primer teórico moderno de la educación, Rousseau.

Las reglas que deben primar en un hogar para garantizar los derechos de todos no deben quedar encarnadas en los padres, usuales aprovechadores de esas reglas porque las han instalado para su beneficio y por lo tanto se comprenden por sobre ellas. Cuando el joven adquiere mayor conciencia, no tarda ni un minuto en detectar estas ilicitudes, sobre todo porque entonces tiene mucho más que perder, en cuanto reconoce y desea la libertad en el mundo civil que lo deslumbra. Quiere ser adulto en la casa cada vez que las reglas le imponen límites. Pero los padres no concederán esa promoción porque la categoría de adulto implicaría la pérdida de su dominio sobre el joven, expresada en el orden de la casa, es decir su jerarquía.

Esto es lo que no ha pasado en el PS y ha irritado tanto a quien tenía enormes deseos de ejercer su libertad y su identidad. Pero como le estaba desordenando la casa a un padre que la tenía toda ordenadita para su beneficio, éste se opuso. ¿Injusto? Claro, el desarrollo entraña dolores porque las medidas establecidas se tensionan. Eso implica siempre un cambio, donde quienes más pierden, más se oponen.

Y por eso valen las metáforas propietarias que ha usado Marco, que como todo huérfano no “sufrió” de parte de la autoridad paterna la imposición de límites a su desarrollo (adolescente es quien sufre creciendo). El padre, como figura ausente recreada mediante las propias expectativas identitarias, anima la audacia en el hijo. Esto se puede observar en muchos casos de huérfanos famosos que han querido romper con el pasado reescribiendo las leyes del futuro. Y si el padre encarnaba la libertad y el desenfado juvenil, ni qué decir. Marco debiera llamarse Desmarco, quiebre de los marcos impuestos. Y mi única duda sobre su eventual gobierno era ésta: su dudosa constancia controlando su ansiosa ambición.

Pero volviendo al punto, los partidos políticos presentan estructuras organizacionales en franca decadencia. Esto los aleja de las nuevas dinámicas sociales, familiares e incluso productivas. La política debe, entre otras cosas, dar sentido a la convivencia social, y los partidos deben presentar las ofertas de sentido. Pero caídas las ideologías que los vieron nacer, se ha quedado en un rol que ya ni siquiera es burocrático, como de a poco irá dejando de ser el Estado al que postulan, sino policíaco-mercantil. El que más tiene, más teme y más se cuida de quienes amenazan sus posesiones. ¿Cómo? Acaparando. En estas actitudes no hay ni atisbos de democracia, y precisamente en quienes son sus representantes. Al parecer, fiarse de los emblemas políticos, a estas alturas, es pecar de ingenuo. Los lobos se visten con piel de oveja.

Mucho mejor que la figura de la autoridad, hoy en crisis, es la del amigo. Lo digo pensando en el aprendizaje que puede obtenerse en la amistad, donde los consejos, si se dan, surgen desde la curiosidad antes que desde la certeza. La amistad es respeto porque es trato horizontal. Es aprecio y por lo tanto generosidad. Todo eso no calza con la actividad política, pero al menos podría inspirarla ahora que nada la inspira realmente salvo el poder. Mucho me temo no estar exagerando, así al menos en más del 50% de los políticos, y ciertamente más en la derecha, comenzando por el insaciable Piñera.

Por lo mismo, mejor que encarnar las leyes de la casa, el padre podría contentarse con escribirlas. Quiero decir que las reglas de la casa se hagan valer por sí mismas, pero que nadie esté por sobre ellas. Esto está supuesto en la voluntad general de Rousseau y en todas las leyes que duran, escritas y a la vista de todos. Así deben funcionar las reglas del juego democrático, así se asegura la convivencia y se autoriza a todas las voces. Eso se suponía que encarnaba la Concertación (en una imagen utópica, claro), pero los que muy pronto, demasiado pronto llegaron a ser patricios, hicieron lo que siempre hacen las castas: ejercer su poder para mantener su dominios. Asi puede devenir en imperio la república. Hoy la propiedad privada puede acabar por absorber a la pública.  ¿Pero cuál es la alternativa? ¿La hay?

Que los congéneres de Camilo hagan gestos de reconciliación tras la violencia comenzada por ellos mismos, bien. Pero que lo hagan porque les conviene, eso puede irritar. Se ve mal, muy mal esta Concertación indigente. No parece que crea en sí misma. Esa energía emocional no se encuentra en el oportunismo del padre, sino en su confianza y generosidad para con el hijo. Los hijos de la Concertación existen, pero parece que harán leña del árbol caído. Penosa decrepitud de una generación que pudo aspirar a la gloria entregando el testimonio pero prefirió conformarse con la codicia. Este es el síndrome del poder: no poder soltarlo. Chile país de rentistas, cada cual se busca su teta y ahí se queda colgado chupando hasta que pueda vender caro, se muera o lo saquen a patadas. La Concertación habrá muerto con las botas puestas en plena y urgida reacción. Los mayores, tal vez llegue a decir un historiador, nunca cedieron las riendas, nunca privilegiaron un proyecto por sobre sus eternos intereses o su adicción. ¿Qué queda? Si el viento fresco de la alternancia debía venir porque es sano para la democracia, bien, que venga. Lástima sí que llegue cabalgado por la derecha chilena.

Del fin de la Concertación, ya que no fue de sí misma, puede que quepa esperar la renovación. Su epitafio dirá: "Porque se ceyeron eternos, desoyeron las advertencias y acabaron muriendo mientras huían de la muerte."

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Pancho, tu comentario no sé por qué me recuerda en algo a Hegel...aunque en tu caso el reflujo subjetivo que se filtra por debajo de las paredes mana impúdico: "ambición en el 50% de los políticos": ¿de dónde viene esta cifra? ¿generosidad navideña?(...)"más en la derecha del insaciable Piñera"?? Y Marco no es tanto o más insaciable? ¿Y Escalona? ¿Y el Gute y la Chol? ¿Y acaso la ambición de Frei no es inmunda, amparada en un millón de silencios cómplices y genuflexos, y su mediocridad acaso no es grotesca, tanto como su oportunismo, su gris soviéticamente uniforme y aplastante? ¿por qué no lo nombras, prefiriendo hablar de "concertación"? recuerda que en una votación, la concertación se llama FREI, y éste equivale a concertación, ¿y qué hay de su envenenada y fétida corte de alcahuetes babosos como el juez Madrid? ¡En que se parece éste a Grissom de CSI? ¿En nada?
Marco es peor que Piñera, porque entre éste y el poder median miles de instancias, de trabajosas bisagras, de infinidad de batallas brutales que llenan sus manos de sangre y mierda, el poder es su fin, pero con Marco, la distancia que lo une al poder mismo es cero, inmediatez absoluta, en él el poder es medio y fin. Piñera corre, sufre y transpira por el poder; pero en cambio Marco está sentado en un salón de pingües micrófonos serviles que penden de su calculada labia, mientras hace correr, sufrir y transpirar a los demás, a quienes hace creer que es él el único, el verdadero corredor, quien sufre y transpira. Es el ANTICRISTO, porque hace pagar a los demás (a su propio padre, bueno, ni siquiera...)los pecados originales de los padres, mientras que Piñera a dichos pecados los desafía, los utiliza, los combate, los coimea arriesgtando el pellejo y la honra, a los que incluso seduce como la serpiente a la mangosta... Piñera es malo, pero Marco es el diablo.
Hegel preferiría a Piñera...Y Rousseau, a ninguno...

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Todos ambicionan, no cabe duda. Y de una manera frenética y desequilibrada mentalmente, también. Pero hay que elegir entre lo que hay. Más que por personas, resulta entonces mejor votar por proyectos o agendas, por ciertos temas. MEO quería instalar algunos que a mí me producen mucha resonancia positiva. Frei casi nada, salvo por las acertadísimas declaraciones que ha hecho Pablo Ruiz-Tagle en relación a una nueva constitución. Eso es algo, y no es poco. Pero como dice C. Ominami, hoy la Concertación no da garantías de que esas promesas se impulsen efectivamente. Después de todo, la Concertación nunca ha arriesgado mucho, salvo honrosas excepciones con Lagos, que de todos modos fueron menores a las esperadas de él.

De Piñera no espero nada que pueda serme deseable. Me imagino por dónde irá la mano, y no creo que sea por donde ha venido diciendo desde abril que irá. No le creo nada de nada. Él hará lo que sabe hacer, y todos sabemos qué es eso. Beneficiará el crecimiento a toda costa. Y de nuevo, todos sabemos qué significa eso. ¿A quién conviene? Ellos dicen siempre que a Chile, los muy engreídos. Pero siempre, en un eterno primer lugar,los beneficia a ellos, los privilegiados de siempre. ¿Cómo se justifica este voto? Con un elevado nivel de hipocresía o con un elevado nivel de ignorancia o con un elevado nivel de cinismo.

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